in a presidential campaign >> think of george w. bush, and campaigning for mitt romney. it would be all over the place. what is this former president doing campaigning? lou: think about what difference in history is if eisenhower is campaigning for nixon in 1960. >> exactly, and we have seen that our former presidents, maybe with the exception of jimmy carter, who every once in awhile stick a needle into somebody's back, but basically even carter hasn't gone and the campaign trail in favor of aristocratic and it. lou: a lot of journalists trying to catch up with anne klein reporting on the machinations of clinton, the secretary and her legal team trying to match your reporting. her role, the president's -- the former president's role in taking responsibility for benghazi, then stepping back from it, leaving her in a heightened, elevated, if you will, memory, at least, those who follow politics, but taking effectively no responsibility. the president's stepping forward. what is going on here? >> and the president was asked today, i believe, about this benghazi think. he said, as i said to my